Comments on: Baffle WiFi Leeches With An Upside-Down-Ternet http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ gadget.hacking.gaming.geek.tech Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 70 things every geek should know | Techoiehttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10896 70 things every geek should know | Techoie Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:38:32 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10896 [...] Nobody likes a wifi leech. At best, they’re simply using up your valuable bandwidth. At the worst–and far more likely, they’re stealing your identity and watching your activities. After watching your network and identifying the leech, use this trick to flip their browser upside down and let them know you don’t appreciate the intrusion. http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: Atleast Computer Geek Should Know !! | twitarticle.comhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-2/#comment-10892 Atleast Computer Geek Should Know !! | twitarticle.com Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:33:46 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10892 [...] 20. Screw with Wifi Leeches Nobody likes a wifi leech. At best, they’re simply using up your valuable bandwidth. At the worst–and far more likely, they’re stealing your identity and watching your activities. After watching your network and identifying the leech, use this trick to flip their browser upside down and let them know you don’t appreciate the intrusion.http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: 70 Things Every Computer Geeks Should Know | New Technology News and Reviewshttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10889 70 Things Every Computer Geeks Should Know | New Technology News and Reviews Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:41:06 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10889 [...] Nobody likes a wifi leech. At best, they’re simply using up your valuable bandwidth. At the worst–and far more likely, they’re stealing your identity and watching your activities. After watching your network and identifying the leech, use this trick to flip their browser upside down and let them know you don’t appreciate the intrusion. http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: 70 Thinks Should Be Aware Off By Every Computer Geek | Hacking Herohttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10881 70 Thinks Should Be Aware Off By Every Computer Geek | Hacking Hero Sat, 03 Sep 2011 06:55:44 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10881 [...] [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10881','70 Thinks Should Be Aware Off By Every Computer Geek | Hacking Hero'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10881','70 Thinks Should Be Aware Off By Every Computer Geek | Hacking Hero','[...] [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] [...]
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]]> By: Lefty's a righty!http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10875 Lefty's a righty! Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:27:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10875 so what do ya'll think of dld-ing movies n songs w/o payin? stealing also? or "hey its on my yard i'll take it, just like the poop ur dog left on my lawn!" ROTFL!  ignite!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10875','Lefty\'s a righty!'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10875','Lefty\'s a righty!','so what do ya\'ll think of dld-ing movies n songs w\/o payin? stealing also? or \"hey its on my yard i\'ll take it, just like the poop ur dog left on my lawn!\" ROTFL! \n\n\nignite!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> so what do ya’ll think of dld-ing movies n songs w/o payin? stealing also? or “hey its on my yard i’ll take it, just like the poop ur dog left on my lawn!” ROTFL! 

ignite!

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]]> By: Things Every Computer Geek Should Knowhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10860 Things Every Computer Geek Should Know Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:46:07 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10860 [...] Nobody likes a wifi leech. At best, they’re simply using up your valuable bandwidth. At the worst–and far more likely, they’re stealing your identity and watching your activities. After watching your network and identifying the leech, use this trick to flip their browser upside down and let them know you don’t appreciate the intrusion. http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: Things Every Computer Geek Should Know | Geek's Codehttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10859 Things Every Computer Geek Should Know | Geek's Code Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:06:42 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10859 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10859','Things Every Computer Geek Should Know | Geek's Code'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10859','Things Every Computer Geek Should Know | Geek's Code','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: jack thompsons dadhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10858 jack thompsons dad Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:19:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10858 yeah youre basically a cunt with shit analogies.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10858','jack thompsons dad'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10858','jack thompsons dad','yeah youre basically a cunt with shit analogies.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> yeah youre basically a cunt with shit analogies.
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]]> By: helphttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10855 help Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:00:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10855 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10855','help'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10855','help','192.168.0.1\n\nor\n\n192.168.1.1'); return false;">Quote</a></div> 192.168.0.1

or

192.168.1.1

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]]> By: pwnedhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10840 pwned Wed, 25 May 2011 09:20:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10840 If you're willing to connect to a router controlled by me, by all means, do so. Bwahahaha. You better be using SSL the whole way, and use only the 15% of sites that have good SSL methods. That wasn't my daughter, that was my pet incubus. pwned 6 ways to sunday.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10840','pwned'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10840','pwned','If you\'re willing to connect to a router controlled by me, by all means, do so. Bwahahaha. You better be using SSL the whole way, and use only the 15% of sites that have good SSL methods.\n\nThat wasn\'t my daughter, that was my pet incubus. pwned 6 ways to sunday.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If you’re willing to connect to a router controlled by me, by all means, do so. Bwahahaha. You better be using SSL the whole way, and use only the 15% of sites that have good SSL methods.

That wasn’t my daughter, that was my pet incubus. pwned 6 ways to sunday.

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]]> By: 70 Things Every Computer Geek Should Know[转]. - 青春纪念册http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10839 70 Things Every Computer Geek Should Know[转]. - 青春纪念册 Mon, 23 May 2011 11:06:06 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10839 [...] Nobody likes a wifi leech. At best, they’re simply using up your valuable bandwidth. At the worst–and far more likely, they’re stealing your identity and watching your activities. After watching your network and identifying the leech, use this trick to flip their browser upside down and let them know you don’t appreciate the intrusion. http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: Skyler Grayhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10829 Skyler Gray Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:56:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10829 I pay for my own internet. I let my neighbors use it. I simply was saying that if you don't want others to use it, you shouldn't make it so easy as to give it to them. That is my belief and one that is shared by many others because it is reasonable. As for that analogy, if you build a swimming pool in your backyard, and the water just happens to go over a little more than intended, that is now my water. Now you could out chlorine in it if you don't want people using it. Chlorine = password. Water = data Pool =router. Just in case you didn't get it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10829','Skyler Gray'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10829','Skyler Gray','I pay for my own internet. I let my neighbors use it. I simply was saying that if you don\'t want others to use it, you shouldn\'t make it so easy as to give it to them. That is my belief and one that is shared by many others because it is reasonable.\n\nAs for that analogy, if you build a swimming pool in your backyard, and the water just happens to go over a little more than intended, that is now my water. Now you could out chlorine in it if you don\'t want people using it. Chlorine = password. Water = data\n Pool =router. Just in case you didn\'t get it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I pay for my own internet. I let my neighbors use it. I simply was saying that if you don’t want others to use it, you shouldn’t make it so easy as to give it to them. That is my belief and one that is shared by many others because it is reasonable.

As for that analogy, if you build a swimming pool in your backyard, and the water just happens to go over a little more than intended, that is now my water. Now you could out chlorine in it if you don’t want people using it. Chlorine = password. Water = data
Pool =router. Just in case you didn’t get it.

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]]> By: Dzylonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10825 Dzylon Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:49:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10825 It really is sad how you justify stealing WiFi. You talk as if you are just the innocent bystander, and the person who you are leeching off of is to blame. You act as if it is the fault of the person who (isn't a lazy fuck) pays for their own internet until they take steps to prevent it. You act like the person who owns the router and pays for the service DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT to turn all the images THEY ARE PAYING FOR upside down. If I wanted to leave the network open, but send all the people who access it to bluewaffle, that is my right and the use of that right is at my discrepancy. Also, my router is not on your property. WiFi networks simply tend to go a little farther than they're supposed to. You use the same logic as the neighbor everyone hates who cuts down limbs from other trees that stretch into your yard. Where's your analogy for that?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10825','Dzylon'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10825','Dzylon','It really is sad how you justify stealing WiFi. You talk as if you are just the innocent bystander, and the person who you are leeching off of is to blame. You act as if it is the fault of the person who (isn\'t a lazy fuck) pays for their own internet until they take steps to prevent it. You act like the person who owns the router and pays for the service DOESN\'T HAVE THE RIGHT to turn all the images THEY ARE PAYING FOR upside down. If I wanted to leave the network open, but send all the people who access it to bluewaffle, that is my right and the use of that right is at my discrepancy.\n\nAlso, my router is not on your property. WiFi networks simply tend to go a little farther than they\'re supposed to. You use the same logic as the neighbor everyone hates who cuts down limbs from other trees that stretch into your yard. Where\'s your analogy for that?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It really is sad how you justify stealing WiFi. You talk as if you are just the innocent bystander, and the person who you are leeching off of is to blame. You act as if it is the fault of the person who (isn’t a lazy fuck) pays for their own internet until they take steps to prevent it. You act like the person who owns the router and pays for the service DOESN’T HAVE THE RIGHT to turn all the images THEY ARE PAYING FOR upside down. If I wanted to leave the network open, but send all the people who access it to bluewaffle, that is my right and the use of that right is at my discrepancy.

Also, my router is not on your property. WiFi networks simply tend to go a little farther than they’re supposed to. You use the same logic as the neighbor everyone hates who cuts down limbs from other trees that stretch into your yard. Where’s your analogy for that?

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]]> By: Skyler Grayhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10823 Skyler Gray Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:27:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10823 If they put it in my yard, I WILL use it. And if you come over and accuse me of stealing, all because YOU put it in MY yard, I'm gonna knock your lights and call the police. Keep your wifi on your lawn, and I won't touch it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10823','Skyler Gray'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10823','Skyler Gray','If they put it in my yard, I WILL use it. And if you come over and accuse me of stealing, all because YOU put it in MY yard, I\'m gonna knock your lights and call the police. Keep your wifi on your lawn, and I won\'t touch it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If they put it in my yard, I WILL use it. And if you come over and accuse me of stealing, all because YOU put it in MY yard, I’m gonna knock your lights and call the police. Keep your wifi on your lawn, and I won’t touch it.
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]]> By: M E T » Blog Archive » 64. atriði sem nörd þarf að vita.http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10821 M E T » Blog Archive » 64. atriði sem nörd þarf að vita. Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:25:56 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10821 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10821','M E T » Blog Archive » 64. atriði sem nörd þarf að vita.'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10821','M E T » Blog Archive » 64. atriði sem nörd þarf að vita.','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: 10 more things a computer geek should know! | Nerd Junctionhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10819 10 more things a computer geek should know! | Nerd Junction Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:03:04 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10819 [...] Nobody likes a wifi leech. At best, they’re simply using up your valuable bandwidth. At the worst–and far more likely, they’re stealing your identity and watching your activities. After watching your network and identifying the leech, use this trick to flip their browser upside down and let them know you don’t appreciate the intrusion. http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: 64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Obliviux.comhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10817 64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Obliviux.com Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:16:17 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10817 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10817','64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Obliviux.com'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10817','64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Obliviux.com','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: technically thats the lawhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10813 technically thats the law Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:05:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10813 he came by that conclusion because its the same one our lawmakers came to (in the USA)... and they passed laws to reflect that...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10813','technically thats the law'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10813','technically thats the law','he came by that conclusion because its the same one our lawmakers came to (in the USA)... and they passed laws to reflect that...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> he came by that conclusion because its the same one our lawmakers came to (in the USA)… and they passed laws to reflect that…
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]]> By: Chuckhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10795 Chuck Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:02:00 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10795 Technically, it's not. I don't know how you came to that conclusion...are radio waves trespassing on everyone's property?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10795','Chuck'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10795','Chuck','Technically, it\'s not. I don\'t know how you came to that conclusion...are radio waves trespassing on everyone\'s property?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Technically, it’s not. I don’t know how you came to that conclusion…are radio waves trespassing on everyone’s property?
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]]> By: Top 10 Of 2010 | tech.nocr.athttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10593 Top 10 Of 2010 | tech.nocr.at Wed, 29 Dec 2010 05:51:53 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10593 [...] Baffle WiFi Leeches With An Upside-Down-Ternet [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10593','Top 10 Of 2010 | tech.nocr.at'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10593','Top 10 Of 2010 | tech.nocr.at','[...] Baffle WiFi Leeches With An Upside-Down-Ternet [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Baffle WiFi Leeches With An Upside-Down-Ternet [...]
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]]> By: Thanxfornotsharinghttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10589 Thanxfornotsharing Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:14:39 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10589 "Hoho how smart we are! Here, take a bunch of code (But we won't tell you what the hell you gotta do with it). See our pics? All upside-down!" They must be trolling... <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10589','Thanxfornotsharing'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10589','Thanxfornotsharing','"Hoho how smart we are! Here, take a bunch of code (But we won't tell you what the hell you gotta do with it). See our pics? All upside-down!" \n \nThey must be trolling... '); return false;">Quote</a></div> "Hoho how smart we are! Here, take a bunch of code (But we won't tell you what the hell you gotta do with it). See our pics? All upside-down!"

They must be trolling…

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]]> By: 64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Blog-binhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10564 64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Blog-bin Tue, 21 Dec 2010 10:20:47 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10564 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10564','64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Blog-bin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10564','64 Things Every Geek Should Know | Blog-bin','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: Jonathanhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10487 Jonathan Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:37:24 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10487 Does failure to lock my bike imply permission to take it without my permission? <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10487','Jonathan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10487','Jonathan','Does failure to lock my bike imply permission to take it without my permission? '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Does failure to lock my bike imply permission to take it without my permission?
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]]> By: 64 Cosas que un Geek debe de saber | Geek Zeitunghttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10466 64 Cosas que un Geek debe de saber | Geek Zeitung Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:45:46 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10466 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10466','64 Cosas que un Geek debe de saber | Geek Zeitung'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10466','64 Cosas que un Geek debe de saber | Geek Zeitung','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: El Kabonghttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10431 El Kabong Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:21:05 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10431 He's doing it in Linux. You could also be using Linux. And stop being mortal. Seriously though, I imagine the same can be done in Win. Just edit the equivalent file the same way. Maybe slight syntax differences. I don't know. I'm in Linux. Yet, still mortal. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10431','El Kabong'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10431','El Kabong','He's doing it in Linux. You could also be using Linux. And stop being mortal. \n \nSeriously though, I imagine the same can be done in Win. Just edit the equivalent file the same way. Maybe slight syntax differences. I don't know. I'm in Linux. Yet, still mortal. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> He's doing it in Linux. You could also be using Linux. And stop being mortal.

Seriously though, I imagine the same can be done in Win. Just edit the equivalent file the same way. Maybe slight syntax differences. I don't know. I'm in Linux. Yet, still mortal.

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]]> By: Jack Thompsonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10427 Jack Thompson Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:12:40 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10427 Wifi is not like a grill in your yard. The thing is I dont have to go to your yard to get your wifi. Your wifi is coming in my house. My wifi card ASKS your router for permission to connect, which YOUR router gives permission for. Your router unlike a bike or a grill laying in your yard, can allow or deny access. my wifi card asks, and your router says yes. If you dont want your router being a slut, put security on it. A better analogy is this: Your daughter comes over to my house. My son asks your daughter if she would like to shag. Your daughter agrees. They knock boots. all night long. You get mad. You tell my son that he shouldn't have done the nasty with your daughter and accuse him of rape. But we all know your daughter consented, because she is like the village bicycle. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10427','Jack Thompson'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10427','Jack Thompson','Wifi is not like a grill in your yard. The thing is I dont have to go to your yard to get your wifi. Your wifi is coming in my house. My wifi card ASKS your router for permission to connect, which YOUR router gives permission for. Your router unlike a bike or a grill laying in your yard, can allow or deny access. my wifi card asks, and your router says yes. If you dont want your router being a slut, put security on it. A better analogy is this: \n \nYour daughter comes over to my house. My son asks your daughter if she would like to shag. Your daughter agrees. They knock boots. all night long. You get mad. You tell my son that he shouldn't have done the nasty with your daughter and accuse him of rape. But we all know your daughter consented, because she is like the village bicycle. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Wifi is not like a grill in your yard. The thing is I dont have to go to your yard to get your wifi. Your wifi is coming in my house. My wifi card ASKS your router for permission to connect, which YOUR router gives permission for. Your router unlike a bike or a grill laying in your yard, can allow or deny access. my wifi card asks, and your router says yes. If you dont want your router being a slut, put security on it. A better analogy is this:

Your daughter comes over to my house. My son asks your daughter if she would like to shag. Your daughter agrees. They knock boots. all night long. You get mad. You tell my son that he shouldn't have done the nasty with your daughter and accuse him of rape. But we all know your daughter consented, because she is like the village bicycle.

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]]> By: Wengerhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10411 Wenger Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:56:11 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10411 Exactly. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10411','Wenger'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10411','Wenger','Exactly. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Exactly.
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]]> By: No, I won'thttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10410 No, I won't Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:54:45 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10410 Wow. I wish I was cool and knew a bunch of expletives. That would prove I'm really mature and cool and stuff. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10410','No, I won't'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10410','No, I won't','Wow. I wish I was cool and knew a bunch of expletives. That would prove I'm really mature and cool and stuff. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Wow. I wish I was cool and knew a bunch of expletives. That would prove I'm really mature and cool and stuff.
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]]> By: Starrhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10404 Starr Sun, 05 Sep 2010 02:02:27 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10404 Truth of the matter is, if my neighbor's wi-fi signal is seeping into MY apartment... I push the wifi button on my laptop, it connects to said neighbor's signal... That's fair game! If you're not smart enough to secure your connection, and it's EASY AS PIE to use your unsecure connection, that's not my fault! AND, if you even have the slightest hint that someone is using your connection, or even WILL be using your connection for illegal things, secure your network! DUH. Either these people do not care that their bandwidth is being leeched, or they were dumb enough to set up a network without having the intelligence, or researching how to set it up securely!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10404','Starr'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10404','Starr','Truth of the matter is, if my neighbor\'s wi-fi signal is seeping into MY apartment... I push the wifi button on my laptop, it connects to said neighbor\'s signal... That\'s fair game! If you\'re not smart enough to secure your connection, and it\'s EASY AS PIE to use your unsecure connection, that\'s not my fault!\r\n\r\nAND, if you even have the slightest hint that someone is using your connection, or even WILL be using your connection for illegal things, secure your network! DUH.\r\n\r\nEither these people do not care that their bandwidth is being leeched, or they were dumb enough to set up a network without having the intelligence, or researching how to set it up securely!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Truth of the matter is, if my neighbor’s wi-fi signal is seeping into MY apartment… I push the wifi button on my laptop, it connects to said neighbor’s signal… That’s fair game! If you’re not smart enough to secure your connection, and it’s EASY AS PIE to use your unsecure connection, that’s not my fault!

AND, if you even have the slightest hint that someone is using your connection, or even WILL be using your connection for illegal things, secure your network! DUH.

Either these people do not care that their bandwidth is being leeched, or they were dumb enough to set up a network without having the intelligence, or researching how to set it up securely!

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]]> By: More than 64 Things Every Geek Should Know. | Arrow Webzinehttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10393 More than 64 Things Every Geek Should Know. | Arrow Webzine Thu, 02 Sep 2010 06:41:13 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10393 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10393','More than 64 Things Every Geek Should Know. | Arrow Webzine'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10393','More than 64 Things Every Geek Should Know. | Arrow Webzine','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: Anonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10321 Anon Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:37:05 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10321 Ignorance is innocence! Curiosity is Sin! Wikipedia corrupts minors! Support willful ignorance! Censor Inspiration! Sharing is Stealing! Outlaw p2p! <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10321','Anon'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10321','Anon','Ignorance is innocence! Curiosity is Sin! Wikipedia corrupts minors! Support willful ignorance! Censor Inspiration! Sharing is Stealing! Outlaw p2p! '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Ignorance is innocence! Curiosity is Sin! Wikipedia corrupts minors! Support willful ignorance! Censor Inspiration! Sharing is Stealing! Outlaw p2p!
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]]> By: kylemancusohttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10319 kylemancuso Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:29:55 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10319 hahaha @b. that's freaking hilarious! <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10319','kylemancuso'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10319','kylemancuso','hahaha @b. that's freaking hilarious! '); return false;">Quote</a></div> hahaha @b. that's freaking hilarious!
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]]> By: 64 Things Every Geek Should Know – LaptopLogic.com | Hofman.orghttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10314 64 Things Every Geek Should Know – LaptopLogic.com | Hofman.org Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:22:52 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10314 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10314','64 Things Every Geek Should Know – LaptopLogic.com | Hofman.org'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10314','64 Things Every Geek Should Know – LaptopLogic.com | Hofman.org','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: ninjabuddyhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10270 ninjabuddy Sun, 02 May 2010 06:24:19 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10270 none of these make it less amusing. if they find it a real problem they can get their own damn connection. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10270','ninjabuddy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10270','ninjabuddy','none of these make it less amusing. if they find it a real problem they can get their own damn connection. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> none of these make it less amusing. if they find it a real problem they can get their own damn connection.
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]]> By: shredthegnarbrahhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10269 shredthegnarbrah Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:33:57 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10269 Picture this: you have left your car in your driveway with your trusty robot that hands anyone who walks up, the keys to your car. Some dude comes up and drives your car around for an hour, comes to enjoy it, and keeps coming back all the time. This is frustrating because you need your car sometimes, right? It's also frustrating because he doesn't ever fill up the tank! But this would be avoided if you would just get rid of the robot and carry your keys like a normal person. Is yesplease a mac user? <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10269','shredthegnarbrah'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10269','shredthegnarbrah','Picture this: you have left your car in your driveway with your trusty robot that hands anyone who walks up, the keys to your car. Some dude comes up and drives your car around for an hour, comes to enjoy it, and keeps coming back all the time. This is frustrating because you need your car sometimes, right? It's also frustrating because he doesn't ever fill up the tank! But this would be avoided if you would just get rid of the robot and carry your keys like a normal person. \n \nIs yesplease a mac user? '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Picture this: you have left your car in your driveway with your trusty robot that hands anyone who walks up, the keys to your car. Some dude comes up and drives your car around for an hour, comes to enjoy it, and keeps coming back all the time. This is frustrating because you need your car sometimes, right? It's also frustrating because he doesn't ever fill up the tank! But this would be avoided if you would just get rid of the robot and carry your keys like a normal person.

Is yesplease a mac user?

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]]> By: yespleasehttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10247 yesplease Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:05:06 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10247 picture this: you have left your car unlocked for the night as you go to bed, some guy comes along and sees your car is unlocked, he breaks in and steals your shit. have they done anything wrong? no, obviously not. people who break windows to get into cars are another matter, obviously... <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10247','yesplease'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10247','yesplease','picture this: you have left your car unlocked for the night as you go to bed, some guy comes along and sees your car is unlocked, he breaks in and steals your shit. have they done anything wrong? no, obviously not. \n \npeople who break windows to get into cars are another matter, obviously... '); return false;">Quote</a></div> picture this: you have left your car unlocked for the night as you go to bed, some guy comes along and sees your car is unlocked, he breaks in and steals your shit. have they done anything wrong? no, obviously not.

people who break windows to get into cars are another matter, obviously…

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]]> By: Ianhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10241 Ian Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:54:13 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10241 <a href='#comment-10107' rel="nofollow">@johnm</a> - That's all fine and dandy until someone dowloads kiddy porn via your wireless and suddenly you're house is being raided by federal police.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10241','Ian'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10241','Ian','<a href=\'#comment-10107\' rel=\"nofollow\">@johnm<\/a> - That\'s all fine and dandy until someone dowloads kiddy porn via your wireless and suddenly you\'re house is being raided by federal police.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @johnm – That’s all fine and dandy until someone dowloads kiddy porn via your wireless and suddenly you’re house is being raided by federal police.
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]]> By: 384 – Leeching The Wifi | craighobern.comhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10176 384 – Leeching The Wifi | craighobern.com Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:12:34 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10176 [...] it would be a great idea to leech my wifi. Silly silly boy, after turning everything to kittens and flipping it upside-down, We chucked a WPA password on it. Gotta Love [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10176','384 – Leeching The Wifi | craighobern.com'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10176','384 – Leeching The Wifi | craighobern.com','[...] it would be a great idea to leech my wifi. Silly silly boy, after turning everything to kittens and flipping it upside-down, We chucked a WPA password on it. Gotta Love [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] it would be a great idea to leech my wifi. Silly silly boy, after turning everything to kittens and flipping it upside-down, We chucked a WPA password on it. Gotta Love [...]
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]]> By: johnmhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10107 johnm Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:17:17 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10107 I don't get people who won't let folks use their wifi signal. My network is wide open (from the modem to wireless router anyways, not to our personal computers) and several of my neighbors use it from time to time. They all have their own internet services, so I'm guessing they connect automatically at times, or they purposefully connect when they get a better signal from me then from their own system (I've got decent antennas set up to network several houses down to the house with the router). I purposefully left access control and encryption off because i don't care if people want to use my stuff. I log everything anyways, and if someone becomes a problem I'll cut them off. If a neighbor/passer by has actual malicious intentions, there's far more concerning vulnerabilities than my wifi, and if they aren't malicious, then I don't care if they use it anyways. I help myself to folks connections when I go for walks and need to access something, and if others want to do the same, even from within their house, I am fine with it. They don't have the right to demand this of me, but I'd think the position that its mind and you can't have any (just cuz its mine and .... well, they might do something bad!) is stupid. Its selfish. As for those who control access for other reasons, cost for example, I'd share their position, but I never did get the security issue. I log the access, and I'm not responsible for others' use anyways (nor are the other millions who leave their wifi open) beyond the fee I pay my provider, and someone who wanted to cause me trouble could key my car, break my windows, bleach my lawn, burglarize my house, or any number of things that I'd prefer much less. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10107','johnm'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10107','johnm','I don't get people who won't let folks use their wifi signal. My network is wide open (from the modem to wireless router anyways, not to our personal computers) and several of my neighbors use it from time to time. They all have their own internet services, so I'm guessing they connect automatically at times, or they purposefully connect when they get a better signal from me then from their own system (I've got decent antennas set up to network several houses down to the house with the router). I purposefully left access control and encryption off because i don't care if people want to use my stuff. I log everything anyways, and if someone becomes a problem I'll cut them off. If a neighbor\/passer by has actual malicious intentions, there's far more concerning vulnerabilities than my wifi, and if they aren't malicious, then I don't care if they use it anyways. \n \nI help myself to folks connections when I go for walks and need to access something, and if others want to do the same, even from within their house, I am fine with it. They don't have the right to demand this of me, but I'd think the position that its mind and you can't have any (just cuz its mine and .... well, they might do something bad!) is stupid. Its selfish. As for those who control access for other reasons, cost for example, I'd share their position, but I never did get the security issue. I log the access, and I'm not responsible for others' use anyways (nor are the other millions who leave their wifi open) beyond the fee I pay my provider, and someone who wanted to cause me trouble could key my car, break my windows, bleach my lawn, burglarize my house, or any number of things that I'd prefer much less. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> I don't get people who won't let folks use their wifi signal. My network is wide open (from the modem to wireless router anyways, not to our personal computers) and several of my neighbors use it from time to time. They all have their own internet services, so I'm guessing they connect automatically at times, or they purposefully connect when they get a better signal from me then from their own system (I've got decent antennas set up to network several houses down to the house with the router). I purposefully left access control and encryption off because i don't care if people want to use my stuff. I log everything anyways, and if someone becomes a problem I'll cut them off. If a neighbor/passer by has actual malicious intentions, there's far more concerning vulnerabilities than my wifi, and if they aren't malicious, then I don't care if they use it anyways.

I help myself to folks connections when I go for walks and need to access something, and if others want to do the same, even from within their house, I am fine with it. They don't have the right to demand this of me, but I'd think the position that its mind and you can't have any (just cuz its mine and …. well, they might do something bad!) is stupid. Its selfish. As for those who control access for other reasons, cost for example, I'd share their position, but I never did get the security issue. I log the access, and I'm not responsible for others' use anyways (nor are the other millions who leave their wifi open) beyond the fee I pay my provider, and someone who wanted to cause me trouble could key my car, break my windows, bleach my lawn, burglarize my house, or any number of things that I'd prefer much less.

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]]> By: p. jaxonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10103 p. jaxon Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:53:10 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10103 How do I change the damn password on my Belkin wireless? I 'lent' it to my new neighbor until they got hooked up and they decided not to get hooked up when they could just keep using mine and I've searched the help section for days now and can't do something so simple as that. OK, that's pathetic but I'm a relative amateur and unless I can find an instruction I'm stuck. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10103','p. jaxon'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10103','p. jaxon','How do I change the damn password on my Belkin wireless? I 'lent' it to my new neighbor until they got hooked up and they decided not to get hooked up when they could just keep using mine and I've searched the help section for days now and can't do something so simple as that. OK, that's pathetic but I'm a relative amateur and unless I can find an instruction I'm stuck. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> How do I change the damn password on my Belkin wireless? I 'lent' it to my new neighbor until they got hooked up and they decided not to get hooked up when they could just keep using mine and I've searched the help section for days now and can't do something so simple as that. OK, that's pathetic but I'm a relative amateur and unless I can find an instruction I'm stuck.
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]]> By: p. jaxonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10104 p. jaxon Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:53:10 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10104 How do I change the damn password on my Belkin wireless? I 'lent' it to my new neighbor until they got hooked up and they decided not to get hooked up when they could just keep using mine and I've searched the help section for days now and can't do something so simple as that. OK, that's pathetic but I'm a relative amateur and unless I can find an instruction I'm stuck. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10104','p. jaxon'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10104','p. jaxon','How do I change the damn password on my Belkin wireless? I 'lent' it to my new neighbor until they got hooked up and they decided not to get hooked up when they could just keep using mine and I've searched the help section for days now and can't do something so simple as that. OK, that's pathetic but I'm a relative amateur and unless I can find an instruction I'm stuck. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> How do I change the damn password on my Belkin wireless? I 'lent' it to my new neighbor until they got hooked up and they decided not to get hooked up when they could just keep using mine and I've searched the help section for days now and can't do something so simple as that. OK, that's pathetic but I'm a relative amateur and unless I can find an instruction I'm stuck.
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]]> By: Are you really a Geek? 54 Things Geeks Should Know. « Shiny Otakuhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10102 Are you really a Geek? 54 Things Geeks Should Know. « Shiny Otaku Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:23:43 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10102 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...] [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment's server IP (74.200.245.190) doesn't match the comment's URL host IP (76.74.255.123) and so is spam.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10102','Are you really a Geek? 54 Things Geeks Should Know. « Shiny Otaku'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10102','Are you really a Geek? 54 Things Geeks Should Know. « Shiny Otaku','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]\n\n[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment\'s server IP (74.200.245.190) doesn\'t match the comment\'s URL host IP (76.74.255.123) and so is spam.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]

[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment’s server IP (74.200.245.190) doesn’t match the comment’s URL host IP (76.74.255.123) and so is spam.

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]]> By: @troop1028http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10093 @troop1028 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:13:18 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10093 The moral of the story is, just like Dad use to say, nothing in life is free, go get a job and pay for access, ya bum! <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10093','@troop1028'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10093','@troop1028','The moral of the story is, just like Dad use to say, nothing in life is free, go get a job and pay for access, ya bum! '); return false;">Quote</a></div> The moral of the story is, just like Dad use to say, nothing in life is free, go get a job and pay for access, ya bum!
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]]> By: 64 Geek Things! « Just Some Random Thoughts…..http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10091 64 Geek Things! « Just Some Random Thoughts….. Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:52:34 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10091 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...] [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment's server IP (72.233.69.24) doesn't match the comment's URL host IP (74.200.243.251) and so is spam.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10091','64 Geek Things! « Just Some Random Thoughts…..'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10091','64 Geek Things! « Just Some Random Thoughts…..','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]\n\n[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment\'s server IP (72.233.69.24) doesn\'t match the comment\'s URL host IP (74.200.243.251) and so is spam.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]

[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment’s server IP (72.233.69.24) doesn’t match the comment’s URL host IP (74.200.243.251) and so is spam.

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]]> By: InternetBroken?http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-10019 InternetBroken? Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:05:26 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-10019 Personally, I have my own wifi and don't really need yours, but wouldn't feel the least bit bad about leaching a little bandwidth from your unsecured network if something were to happen to my home network, especially because everyone in the neighborhood is using the same ISP and shares bandwidth anyway. I'm going to assume you're doing the same, as aside from some port forwarding and firewall disabling, I've more or less left my router in factory setup, as it's the only way to get our two xbox's to connect to the internet, and since we run xp sp1 and vista I can have either wep or wpa encryption, but wind up fielding complaints from computer illiterates about whoever's laptop just quit connecting to the internet each time I try to password protect or disable SSID broadcasting. I promise not to run over your constantly screaming children on my way to work, or throw my cigarette butts on your lawn as long as I can leave uTorrent on overnight and have my shows ready by the time I get home. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10019','InternetBroken?'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10019','InternetBroken?','Personally, I have my own wifi and don't really need yours, but wouldn't feel the least bit bad about leaching a little bandwidth from your unsecured network if something were to happen to my home network, especially because everyone in the neighborhood is using the same ISP and shares bandwidth anyway. I'm going to assume you're doing the same, as aside from some port forwarding and firewall disabling, I've more or less left my router in factory setup, as it's the only way to get our two xbox's to connect to the internet, and since we run xp sp1 and vista I can have either wep or wpa encryption, but wind up fielding complaints from computer illiterates about whoever's laptop just quit connecting to the internet each time I try to password protect or disable SSID broadcasting. I promise not to run over your constantly screaming children on my way to work, or throw my cigarette butts on your lawn as long as I can leave uTorrent on overnight and have my shows ready by the time I get home. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Personally, I have my own wifi and don't really need yours, but wouldn't feel the least bit bad about leaching a little bandwidth from your unsecured network if something were to happen to my home network, especially because everyone in the neighborhood is using the same ISP and shares bandwidth anyway. I'm going to assume you're doing the same, as aside from some port forwarding and firewall disabling, I've more or less left my router in factory setup, as it's the only way to get our two xbox's to connect to the internet, and since we run xp sp1 and vista I can have either wep or wpa encryption, but wind up fielding complaints from computer illiterates about whoever's laptop just quit connecting to the internet each time I try to password protect or disable SSID broadcasting. I promise not to run over your constantly screaming children on my way to work, or throw my cigarette butts on your lawn as long as I can leave uTorrent on overnight and have my shows ready by the time I get home.
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]]> By: Guest1http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9956 Guest1 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:13:50 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9956 I had an open connection, but my neighbour's kids got carried away with it and began to download music like crazy onto their ipods, with my fairly slow connection. I couldn't even use my own net connection, I was lagging too bad. Had to password protect it. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9956','Guest1'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9956','Guest1','I had an open connection, but my neighbour's kids got carried away with it and began to download music like crazy onto their ipods, with my fairly slow connection. I couldn't even use my own net connection, I was lagging too bad. Had to password protect it. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> I had an open connection, but my neighbour's kids got carried away with it and began to download music like crazy onto their ipods, with my fairly slow connection. I couldn't even use my own net connection, I was lagging too bad. Had to password protect it.
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]]> By: bobhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9781 bob Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:22:47 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9781 @Scott Finally, a bit of intelligence leaks it's way into the conversation.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9781','bob'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9781','bob','@Scott Finally, a bit of intelligence leaks it\'s way into the conversation.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Scott Finally, a bit of intelligence leaks it’s way into the conversation.
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]]> By: bobhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9780 bob Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:20:01 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9780 Look at all the pissed off cheap bastards on here complaining. Buy your own internet cheapskates.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9780','bob'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9780','bob','Look at all the pissed off cheap bastards on here complaining.\r\n\r\nBuy your own internet cheapskates.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Look at all the pissed off cheap bastards on here complaining.

Buy your own internet cheapskates.

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]]> By: #Os Punks também amam!http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9778 #Os Punks também amam! Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:52:57 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9778 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9778','#Os Punks também amam!'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9778','#Os Punks também amam!','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: Not real namehttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9770 Not real name Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:39:55 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9770 @nothanks – Picture this: somebody wants a piece of your cake. The box it came in had a note saying “help yourself” which you did not remove. You’re not around, but they see this and assume it’s ok and put some child porn on it. Have they done anything wrong? Yes, obviously not.

That’s essentially whats happening here: somebody comes along and tries to use your wifi. Their computer asks your router to allow it access to your wifi. Your router responds, on your behalf, that they have permission to connect. Then they download CP and you get in trouble with the FBI.

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]]> By: bhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9761 b Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:53:53 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9761 what? i didnt realize that my neighbor owned the airspace around their house? LOL I guess if i fart and it sneaks into their backyard thats also trespassing? <blockquote><a href='#comment-9739' rel="nofollow">Originally Posted By Sean Thmas</a>Technically an open wifi signal is trespassing onto the neighbor's property....</blockquote><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9761','b'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9761','b','what? i didnt realize that my neighbor owned the airspace around their house? LOL I guess if i fart and it sneaks into their backyard thats also trespassing?\r\n\r\n<blockquote><a href=\'#comment-9739\' rel=\"nofollow\">Originally Posted By Sean Thmas<\/a>Technically an open wifi signal is trespassing onto the neighbor\'s property....<\/blockquote>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> what? i didnt realize that my neighbor owned the airspace around their house? LOL I guess if i fart and it sneaks into their backyard thats also trespassing?

Originally Posted By Sean ThmasTechnically an open wifi signal is trespassing onto the neighbor’s property….

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]]> By: Sean Thmashttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9739 Sean Thmas Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:31:53 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9739 Technically an open wifi signal is trespassing onto the neighbor's property....<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9739','Sean Thmas'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9739','Sean Thmas','Technically an open wifi signal is trespassing onto the neighbor\'s property....'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Technically an open wifi signal is trespassing onto the neighbor’s property….
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]]> By: Nokhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9737 Nok Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:50:12 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9737 Can someone link us mortals to a "How-To" please? I've never split a network before...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9737','Nok'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9737','Nok','Can someone link us mortals to a \"How-To\" please? I\'ve never split a network before...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Can someone link us mortals to a “How-To” please? I’ve never split a network before…
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]]> By: Mikehttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9730 Mike Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:07:39 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9730 I had a guy who stole my cable TV by putting a splitter on it underground and it wasn't until the cable company noticed it, but he never got punished. My point to all of these commenters is this: if you have something in your yard, such as Christmas decorations, plants, a grill, your kids bike; none of them are locked down. Since they aren't secured with a lock and key, does that mean it's okay to take and/or use them at your discretion? Of course not. Not until you have explicit permission from the owner of those items you wish to use, should you feel comfortable or allowed to do so. This includes WiFi, and anything else. It's a shame that we have to protect our own WiFi from pathetic neighbors who wish to steal it. Want WiFi? get your own. I did. Is it open? No. Should I be able to leave it open? Yes. BUT, this is America. Full of thieves, and lowlifes who feel that everything anyone else has should be theirs also-- and for free at that. Part of the unemployment problem and welfare issues facing us today. They all want it for themselves, but don't feel as though they should have to work for it. Get a job, get your own.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9730','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9730','Mike','I had a guy who stole my cable TV by putting a splitter on it underground and it wasn\'t until the cable company noticed it, but he never got punished. My point to all of these commenters is this: if you have something in your yard, such as Christmas decorations, plants, a grill, your kids bike; none of them are locked down. Since they aren\'t secured with a lock and key, does that mean it\'s okay to take and\/or use them at your discretion? Of course not. Not until you have explicit permission from the owner of those items you wish to use, should you feel comfortable or allowed to do so. This includes WiFi, and anything else. It\'s a shame that we have to protect our own WiFi from pathetic neighbors who wish to steal it. Want WiFi? get your own. I did. Is it open? No. Should I be able to leave it open? Yes. BUT, this is America. Full of thieves, and lowlifes who feel that everything anyone else has should be theirs also-- and for free at that. Part of the unemployment problem and welfare issues facing us today. They all want it for themselves, but don\'t feel as though they should have to work for it. Get a job, get your own.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I had a guy who stole my cable TV by putting a splitter on it underground and it wasn’t until the cable company noticed it, but he never got punished. My point to all of these commenters is this: if you have something in your yard, such as Christmas decorations, plants, a grill, your kids bike; none of them are locked down. Since they aren’t secured with a lock and key, does that mean it’s okay to take and/or use them at your discretion? Of course not. Not until you have explicit permission from the owner of those items you wish to use, should you feel comfortable or allowed to do so. This includes WiFi, and anything else. It’s a shame that we have to protect our own WiFi from pathetic neighbors who wish to steal it. Want WiFi? get your own. I did. Is it open? No. Should I be able to leave it open? Yes. BUT, this is America. Full of thieves, and lowlifes who feel that everything anyone else has should be theirs also– and for free at that. Part of the unemployment problem and welfare issues facing us today. They all want it for themselves, but don’t feel as though they should have to work for it. Get a job, get your own.
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]]> By: Scotthttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9632 Scott Fri, 22 May 2009 04:13:35 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9632 You people are retarded... "If you sit their and let your hose drain onto my property you have no business complaining when i use the water." If I leave my hose on, and it leaks into your yard, feel free to use the water. However, dont send anything back through the water to my property. That IS how wireless works, its a two way street. "How about you keep your damn wifi off my property.." How about you tell those planes to stop flying over, too. Or keep the smoke from your grill out of my air. Or the noise from that lawnmower off my property... "cause your infiltrating my house with <del>wifi</del> waves and we can easily make a law.." So is Verizon Wireless, Sprint, the local radio stations, etc etc etc...let me know how it works out when you tell them to "keep off your property". I could go on and on...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9632','Scott'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9632','Scott','You people are retarded...\r\n\r\n\"If you sit their and let your hose drain onto my property you have no business complaining when i use the water.\"\r\n\r\nIf I leave my hose on, and it leaks into your yard, feel free to use the water. However, dont send anything back through the water to my property. That IS how wireless works, its a two way street.\r\n\r\n\"How about you keep your damn wifi off my property..\"\r\n\r\nHow about you tell those planes to stop flying over, too. Or keep the smoke from your grill out of my air. Or the noise from that lawnmower off my property...\r\n\r\n\"cause your infiltrating my house with <del>wifi<\/del> waves and we can easily make a law..\"\r\n\r\nSo is Verizon Wireless, Sprint, the local radio stations, etc etc etc...let me know how it works out when you tell them to \"keep off your property\". \r\n\r\nI could go on and on...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You people are retarded…

“If you sit their and let your hose drain onto my property you have no business complaining when i use the water.”

If I leave my hose on, and it leaks into your yard, feel free to use the water. However, dont send anything back through the water to my property. That IS how wireless works, its a two way street.

“How about you keep your damn wifi off my property..”

How about you tell those planes to stop flying over, too. Or keep the smoke from your grill out of my air. Or the noise from that lawnmower off my property…

“cause your infiltrating my house with wifi waves and we can easily make a law..”

So is Verizon Wireless, Sprint, the local radio stations, etc etc etc…let me know how it works out when you tell them to “keep off your property”.

I could go on and on…

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]]> By: Mega-gia: 64 cosas que un Geek deveria saber « marcianos conectadoshttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9626 Mega-gia: 64 cosas que un Geek deveria saber « marcianos conectados Mon, 18 May 2009 16:38:48 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9626 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...] [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment's server IP (74.200.245.176) doesn't match the comment's URL host IP (74.200.243.251) and so is spam.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9626','Mega-gia: 64 cosas que un Geek deveria saber « marcianos conectados'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9626','Mega-gia: 64 cosas que un Geek deveria saber « marcianos conectados','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]\n\n[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment\'s server IP (74.200.245.176) doesn\'t match the comment\'s URL host IP (74.200.243.251) and so is spam.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]

[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment’s server IP (74.200.245.176) doesn’t match the comment’s URL host IP (74.200.243.251) and so is spam.

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]]> By: tmaytonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9605 tmayton Thu, 07 May 2009 13:28:17 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9605 <a href='#comment-9576' rel="nofollow">@joulesbeef</a> - Agreed. At the very least, it's rude to broadcast an ID to people you don't want accessing the network. With most of these private networks that exclusively use the same set of computers, they need to stop broadcasting ID's and tell the routers to limit access based on the MACs along with a wpa2 key. That's a pretty polite way of saying keep out. After that, yeah, someones obvious acting in a hostile manner if trying to access the network. Mindgames are justified at that point. [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us '0 which is not a hashcash value.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9605','tmayton'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9605','tmayton','<a href=\'#comment-9576\' rel=\"nofollow\">@joulesbeef<\/a> - \r\n\r\nAgreed. At the very least, it\'s rude to broadcast an ID to people you don\'t want accessing the network. With most of these private networks that exclusively use the same set of computers, they need to stop broadcasting ID\'s and tell the routers to limit access based on the MACs along with a wpa2 key. That\'s a pretty polite way of saying keep out. After that, yeah, someones obvious acting in a hostile manner if trying to access the network. Mindgames are justified at that point.\n\n[WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The poster sent us \'0 which is not a hashcash value.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @joulesbeef –

Agreed. At the very least, it’s rude to broadcast an ID to people you don’t want accessing the network. With most of these private networks that exclusively use the same set of computers, they need to stop broadcasting ID’s and tell the routers to limit access based on the MACs along with a wpa2 key. That’s a pretty polite way of saying keep out. After that, yeah, someones obvious acting in a hostile manner if trying to access the network. Mindgames are justified at that point.

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]]> By: robhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9603 rob Wed, 06 May 2009 21:51:01 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9603 <a href='#comment-9576' rel="nofollow">@joulesbeef</a> - LMFAO wow that is funny sh*t but also, VERY TRUE!!!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9603','rob'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9603','rob','<a href=\'#comment-9576\' rel=\"nofollow\">@joulesbeef<\/a> - LMFAO wow that is funny sh*t but also, VERY TRUE!!!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @joulesbeef – LMFAO wow that is funny sh*t but also, VERY TRUE!!!
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]]> By: smadamr | 2^6 Things Every Geek Should Knowhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9596 smadamr | 2^6 Things Every Geek Should Know Fri, 01 May 2009 02:06:29 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9596 [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9596','smadamr | 2^6 Things Every Geek Should Know'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9596','smadamr | 2^6 Things Every Geek Should Know','[...] http:\/\/tech.nocr.at\/hacking-security\/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2\/ [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/ [...]
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]]> By: fukoffhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9583 fukoff Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:55:14 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9583 you all are stupid and should fukoff lol<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9583','fukoff'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9583','fukoff','you all are stupid and should fukoff lol'); return false;">Quote</a></div> you all are stupid and should fukoff lol
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]]> By: 64 cosas que todo geek deberia saber | Tecnologia y Sociedadhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9582 64 cosas que todo geek deberia saber | Tecnologia y Sociedad Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:15:25 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9582 [...] 20. Combatir los Wifi Leechers [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9582','64 cosas que todo geek deberia saber | Tecnologia y Sociedad'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9582','64 cosas que todo geek deberia saber | Tecnologia y Sociedad','[...] 20. Combatir los Wifi Leechers [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] 20. Combatir los Wifi Leechers [...]
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]]> By: Hunterhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9580 Hunter Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:38:34 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9580 I think a correct analogy for this would be if you left your radio on in your house (which btw you are doing with your wifi)and I listened to it in my house. Nuf said. Brandon has a point though, eat my cake, but you damn well better leave me plenty. I've been known to leech a wifi before, and thus left mine open (with an encrypted network) for internet use, but there is definitely an etiquette to it. You don't do high bandwidth apps on someone else's network unless you're personally invited to. checking your email, pulling down an youtube vid, cruising the internet - all cool as long as you do it safely and courteously.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9580','Hunter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9580','Hunter','I think a correct analogy for this would be if you left your radio on in your house (which btw you are doing with your wifi)and I listened to it in my house. Nuf said. \r\n\r\nBrandon has a point though, eat my cake, but you damn well better leave me plenty. I\'ve been known to leech a wifi before, and thus left mine open (with an encrypted network) for internet use, but there is definitely an etiquette to it. You don\'t do high bandwidth apps on someone else\'s network unless you\'re personally invited to. checking your email, pulling down an youtube vid, cruising the internet - all cool as long as you do it safely and courteously.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I think a correct analogy for this would be if you left your radio on in your house (which btw you are doing with your wifi)and I listened to it in my house. Nuf said.

Brandon has a point though, eat my cake, but you damn well better leave me plenty. I’ve been known to leech a wifi before, and thus left mine open (with an encrypted network) for internet use, but there is definitely an etiquette to it. You don’t do high bandwidth apps on someone else’s network unless you’re personally invited to. checking your email, pulling down an youtube vid, cruising the internet – all cool as long as you do it safely and courteously.

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]]> By: Brandonhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9579 Brandon Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:39:06 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9579 @nothanks: I don't mind if you have a nice slice, but if you barely leave me any cake, beware the consequences. Setting this up after X number of pages might work.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9579','Brandon'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9579','Brandon','@nothanks: I don\'t mind if you have a nice slice, but if you barely leave me any cake, beware the consequences.\r\n\r\nSetting this up after X number of pages might work.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @nothanks: I don’t mind if you have a nice slice, but if you barely leave me any cake, beware the consequences.

Setting this up after X number of pages might work.

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]]> By: Ryanhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9578 Ryan Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:47:48 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9578 Can anyone translate this to english? Us mortals can't just snap our fingers and split a network. :\<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9578','Ryan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9578','Ryan','Can anyone translate this to english? Us mortals can\'t just snap our fingers and split a network.\r\n\r\n:\'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Can anyone translate this to english? Us mortals can’t just snap our fingers and split a network.

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]]> By: joulesbeefhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9576 joulesbeef Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:46:12 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9576 How about you keep your damn wifi off my property.. if you feel like that. make your sidd keep out.. but drop the attitude cause your infiltrating my house with wifi waves and we can easily make a law.. saying keep your EM waves on your own damn property. If you sit their and let your hose drain onto my property you have no business complaining when i use the water.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9576','joulesbeef'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9576','joulesbeef','How about you keep your damn wifi off my property.. if you feel like that.\r\nmake your sidd keep out.. but drop the attitude cause your infiltrating my house with wifi waves and we can easily make a law.. saying keep your EM waves on your own damn property.\r\n\r\n\r\nIf you sit their and let your hose drain onto my property you have no business complaining when i use the water.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> How about you keep your damn wifi off my property.. if you feel like that.
make your sidd keep out.. but drop the attitude cause your infiltrating my house with wifi waves and we can easily make a law.. saying keep your EM waves on your own damn property.

If you sit their and let your hose drain onto my property you have no business complaining when i use the water.

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]]> By: That's really stupidhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9474 That's really stupid Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:32:39 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9474 <a href='#comment-9468' rel="nofollow">@thats stupid</a> - That's not exactly a correct analogy. When you connect to someone else's unprotected wifi you're not going into someone else's house. In reality, you're using something that was put through your walls into your house. Something a little closer to reality would be: I go into your house and leave a cake on the table. You eat a slice of the cake.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9474','That\'s really stupid'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9474','That\'s really stupid','<a href=\'#comment-9468\' rel=\"nofollow\">@thats stupid<\/a> - That\'s not exactly a correct analogy. When you connect to someone else\'s unprotected wifi you\'re not going into someone else\'s house. In reality, you\'re using something that was put through your walls into your house. Something a little closer to reality would be: I go into your house and leave a cake on the table. You eat a slice of the cake.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @thats stupid – That’s not exactly a correct analogy. When you connect to someone else’s unprotected wifi you’re not going into someone else’s house. In reality, you’re using something that was put through your walls into your house. Something a little closer to reality would be: I go into your house and leave a cake on the table. You eat a slice of the cake.
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]]> By: thats stupidhttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9468 thats stupid Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:43:34 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9468 <a href='#comment-9466' rel="nofollow">@nothanks</a> - That's stupid. Is it alright for people off the street to come into my house because they see the doors open? No. The same thought applies to wifi.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9468','thats stupid'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9468','thats stupid','<a href=\'#comment-9466\' rel=\"nofollow\">@nothanks<\/a> - That\'s stupid. Is it alright for people off the street to come into my house because they see the doors open? No. The same thought applies to wifi.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @nothanks – That’s stupid. Is it alright for people off the street to come into my house because they see the doors open? No. The same thought applies to wifi.
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]]> By: nothankshttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9466 nothanks Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:01:26 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-9466 Picture this: somebody wants a piece of your cake. The box it came in had a note saying "help yourself" which you did not remove. You're not around, but they see this and assume it's ok and have a slice. Have they done anything wrong? No, obviously not. That's essentially whats happening here: somebody comes along and tries to use your wifi. Their computer asks your router to allow it access to your wifi. Your router responds, on your behalf, that they have permission to connect. Have they done anything wrong? If you have left it set up to allow connections by default, then you are allowing connections! Wifi hackers are another matter, obviously...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('9466','nothanks'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('9466','nothanks','Picture this: somebody wants a piece of your cake. The box it came in had a note saying \"help yourself\" which you did not remove. You\'re not around, but they see this and assume it\'s ok and have a slice. Have they done anything wrong? No, obviously not.\r\n\r\nThat\'s essentially whats happening here: somebody comes along and tries to use your wifi. Their computer asks your router to allow it access to your wifi. Your router responds, on your behalf, that they have permission to connect. \r\n\r\nHave they done anything wrong? If you have left it set up to allow connections by default, then you are allowing connections! \r\n\r\nWifi hackers are another matter, obviously...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Picture this: somebody wants a piece of your cake. The box it came in had a note saying “help yourself” which you did not remove. You’re not around, but they see this and assume it’s ok and have a slice. Have they done anything wrong? No, obviously not.

That’s essentially whats happening here: somebody comes along and tries to use your wifi. Their computer asks your router to allow it access to your wifi. Your router responds, on your behalf, that they have permission to connect.

Have they done anything wrong? If you have left it set up to allow connections by default, then you are allowing connections!

Wifi hackers are another matter, obviously…

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]]> By: Hunt Down Wi Fi Leeches With MoocherHunter | tech.nocr.athttp://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8993 Hunt Down Wi Fi Leeches With MoocherHunter | tech.nocr.at Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:09:32 +0000 http://tech.nocr.at/hacking-security/baffle-wifi-leeches-with-an-upside-down-ternet-2/#comment-8993 [...] week we showed you how to screw with people who were stealing your Wi Fi signal by flipping their browsers and blurring their images. Today we show you how to hunt those Wi Fi [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8993','Hunt Down Wi Fi Leeches With MoocherHunter | tech.nocr.at'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8993','Hunt Down Wi Fi Leeches With MoocherHunter | tech.nocr.at','[...] week we showed you how to screw with people who were stealing your Wi Fi signal by flipping their browsers and blurring their images. Today we show you how to hunt those Wi Fi [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] week we showed you how to screw with people who were stealing your Wi Fi signal by flipping their browsers and blurring their images. Today we show you how to hunt those Wi Fi [...]
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